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Post Re-Learning
on: February 14, 2014, 16:20
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Hello,
After passing my 12wpm in 2000 I ended up off the air due to work/moving etc and now 14 years later find my receive speed is terrible.
I learned using slow morse and find myself changing di dah dah dit into P etc now so went looking for advice and help, I have decided to re learn with the Koch method as reading about it seems the best approach.
Does anyone have any tips or advice other than the usefull advice already on the site ?

I also seem to notice most of the morse on the bands is around 35wpm now or is it im just so out of practice lol.

Dean

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Post Re: Re-Learning
on: February 15, 2014, 13:08
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Hi Dean, I'm sorry but their is no quick fix and the best thing is to retrain using the Koch Method, It should not take long considering that you passed 12 wpm but will certainly improve your Morse.
Speeds on the band vary from 12wpm to 30wpm just pick a station that you feel comfortable to work, fast operators will always slow down for you.

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on: February 15, 2014, 13:59
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Im not in for a quick fix this time so that's ok, I just want to do it correctly this time ! I have always wanted to copy morse better but as I say things got in the way.
Looking on the bright side It is as if I am starting again albeit with a head start and I keep dipping my toes on contest station / special events where I can repetitively read what he is saying and/or guesstimate the exchange but as for a real contact I think I had better keep listening to the app as I walk the dog at night for a while yet and wait for my receive speed to come up or the sender would fall asleep sending at a speed comfortable to me atm.
One thing I have noticed with Koch programs/apps is the relentless speed it throws it at you leaving no room for thinking, I learned the first time around with characters sent at 15wpm but with a shorter and shorter space between them over time which I was more comfortable with on the Datong D70 however I am going to persevere with this method for a few weeks and see how we go.

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on: February 15, 2014, 14:38
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Being a good Morse operator is all about having a reflex action with ALL Characters and this only comes with continual practice and repitition. Once you have this reflex action the world is you oyster as you speed will increase very easily.

I recently had a contact from a Morse Operator that wanted to increase his speed above 20wpm but found it very difficult, further investigation found that he did not have a reflex action with 3 characters which was stopping him increasing his speed.

To give you something to look forward to, read Carl's story http://www.themorsecrusade.g5fz.co.uk/2012/02/email-mentoring-works/#comment-1147

One thing I always say is THINKING IS BAD when learning Morse and that is the reason I promote the Koch Method at 12wpm overall speed and 20wpm character speed which reduces the thinking time and promotes the reflex action.

I wonder which App you use, I recently reviewed one for the Andriod operating system and you can set it at 20wpm speed and double the space between characters and words which would give you about 10wpm overall speed and mess with the settings to suit yourself.http://www.themorsecrusade.g5fz.co.uk/2013/06/smartphone-morse-app-review/

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on: February 15, 2014, 19:19
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And there we have the problem with inferior apps that don't allow a thinking gap, Its an iphone btw and the app is morse-it which doesnt have a gap setting.
Ham morse seems more than up to the job though and well worth the money.
After heading to LCWO.net and booking in today I actually set it up at 20wpm character speed and 10 effective speed which felt natural to me.
I think my main problem is missing characters as I can pick out many characters by ear when listening but keeping up is difficult when I hit characters that are not as ingrained so lots of practice is on the cards.
Thank you for your help thus far as it is invaluable.

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on: February 15, 2014, 19:56
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Being a Morse Mentor I look at the available apps, but for them to be any good they must give you the options of changing all settings. The app on this website is very good and it will run on any Andriod system. We used it on a 7 inch tablet at the National Hamfest 2013 for taking the Morse tests.

With what you have been saying about missing characters, I wonder if you have read http://www.themorsecrusade.g5fz.co.uk/putting-pen-to-paper/ as it is difficult to start with but you must stop thinking about missed characters. Any form of THINKING is bad in Morse.

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on: February 15, 2014, 22:09
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Yes I read that and saw it as one of my problems, All is ok and im plodding along nicely then hit a character I struggle with and before I know it the whole thing has gone down the pan.
Using the dot instead of worrying about a missed character helped me pass the morse at Donnington as I missed a letter in the call but it was repeated at the end of the passage and of course I filled it in from there.
Practice practice practice.

Hopefully with working back through the letters at regular daily practice sessions along with subliminal headcopy sessions (or walking the dog as we normally call it) for around half an hour per night I should get decent progress over the next few weeks.

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on: February 24, 2014, 21:24
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Quick update, Its over a week now and im making good progress with re-learning the letters at 20wpm.
I am proofing my letters and slowly adding them into the mix as it seems I had trouble with L and W so far, I now realise my pro-signs and numbers need a lot of work as I was subconsciously counting them instead of knowing them.
The head copy sessions seem to be working too and I am using them to grind the letters in to my subconscious by walking along uttering random letters as they come out so I will probably be known locally as the crazy dog walker soon.
Once I have all the letters, Numbers and pro-signs committed to memory then I will be venturing back on the air and will be aiming to increase my speed.

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Post Re: Re-Learning
on: February 25, 2014, 15:52
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You are doing well Dean, using the program "Just Learn Morse Code" , you can weight the problem characters so they pop up more than the ones you are OK with.

Counting is for the kids, the sooner you kick the habbit the better but it can only be done by practice, practice and more practice.

Keep up the good work

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Post Re: Re-Learning
on: March 4, 2014, 10:11
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Hope you don't mind the weekly updates here, I find it helps keep me motivated.
Im still enjoying re-learning and can see progress although the numbers have slowed me down but at least I know why I was having trouble now and have stopped counting and started to hear the ones I know as a number instead of its separate parts.
I am starting to pick out more in off the air CW and it seems my 12 year old can now pick out when people are calling CQ as he mentioned someone was calling while walking past me in the kitchen yesterday as my radio was on in the background.
Sadly neither of my sons are as yet interested in radio but I do keep trying.

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